6 thoughts on “Subsidiarity vs. Single Payer

  1. Thank you for articulating my same thoughts so well! Another one of the many ways that the means of acquiring health care services and lowering their costs could be addressed is through healthcare sharing ministries, like Samaritan Ministries. My family and I are members of Samaritan. If subsidiarity and healthcare are going to be talked about, those advocates of single payer systems cannot deny that healthcare sharing ministries are proving single payer systems unneeded and unwarranted.Thank you again to responding to Jack's article.

  2. David,A single-payer system may not necessarily be the best system, but I fail to see how it can be condemned as absolutely contrary to subsidiarity. Subsidiarity, after all, is defined pretty loosely – “to assign to a greater and higher association what lesser and subordinate organizations can do” – there's a lot of room for prudential judgment here. And a single-payer system could well be administered by the several states, not centrally. I'd prefer a decentralized system of cooperatives, but I'm not sure that that is practical in our mobile society. Are we to endure our present lack of system unless we can have the best kind of health care system?Thomas Storck

  3. Tom,My problem with a “single payer” scheme is that it encompasses all aspects of paying for health care, including those which can very practically be paid by either private solutions or by more local branches of government assistance. I do believe that health care is a right, like food, and I believe Catholic Social Teaching supports that view. However it is not a right in the sense that you don't have to pay a just price for the services or food you receive. This, I believe, is an individual responsibility and the social responsibility for assisting those in need applies particularly to those who cannot afford to do so. I quote again from the Compendium of Catholic Social Doctrine: “The initiative, freedom and responsibilityof lower orders of society must not be supplanted.” In regard to the mobility of our society. The difficulties of coverage for getting medical care “out of the service area” is a man-made complication, one which I believe is created by both the insurance companies and government regulations. However, if a means of payment is there, then why should service be denied even when abroad, and why should payment be denied just because you were abroad? Let's say, for example that you have a subscription based medical coverage for general health and check-ups. In addition to that, you have guild or company based insurance to cover more serious illnesses. Then you have a county or state based coverage for extreme cases that go beyond the financial capabilities of the lower orders.This is admittedly more complicated, but I think it applies the principle of subsidiarity according to Catholic teaching in ways that a single payer system does not.In regard to prudence, I certainly agree that social assistance at at the state level is needed for our current situation. Therefore, I would advocate it – as the Church proposes – a temporary solution while the system gets adjusted to be more in line with subsidiarity. However, the advocates of single-payer I have heard and read don't suggest it as temporary in any way. It is not only proposed as a permanent solution for paying for all health care, it is proposed to be administered at the federal level, depriving even the states of their role. How is this subsidiarity?

  4. You wrote, “It is not only proposed as a permanent solution for paying for all health care, it is proposed to be administered at the federal level, depriving even the states of their role. How is this subsidiarity?”Well, it evidently isn't subsidiarity, but it's also not what I advocate. And I'm surprised, since in Canada their system is administered by the provinces, that the single-payer advocates you've encountered here want a centrally-based system.With regard to your point about one being obliged to pay a just price for health care – of course, health care is not free like sunshine is, we would need to pay for it by taxes. But if we look at society as made up of a community, not a bunch of individuals who happen to live near each other and are essentially in competition with each other, then certainly there is nothing wrong with our paying for it with tax money, just as we pay for our common defense with tax money – indeed, for our common aggression in too many cases!Thomas Storck

  5. Even if it is administered at the state level, I think there are still legitimate objections to saying that a single-payer system is truly compatible with subsidiarity. If the state controls the payments, it will control what it pays for. What leeway will there be for alternative treatments outside of those the government approves? With the authority set at such a high level of society, how will the common person have an effective voice against abuses? How will the small health care provider be fairly represented against the giant medical corporations and their lobbying power? Also, since subsidiarity is not merely a political idea, but a principle of reason, it needs to be applied consistently.The basis (as I have heard it, and which was reiterated in Mr. Quirck's article) for advocating a single payer system for health care is that all of the following are true:1: Access to healthcare is a fundamental human right.2: The poor cannot afford even preventive health care.3: Some medical treatments are so expensive that even the middle class cannot afford them when needed.4: The current system does not adequately address the issues of access.Well, if these facts justify a single-payer system for health care, then why not for food? Certainly points 1, 2 and 4 apply to food? Will we provide a single payer system for food? If not, then why the inconsistency in the application of a universal principle?We have government systems in place to help provide access to food, but they are not one-size fits all – let's absorb everybody into this assistance program even when they don't need the assistance – systems. They specifically target those in need. We have similar programs for housing? They may not be perfect, but they don't usurp the roles and responsibilities of everyone. Why can't this be done with health care?As Pius XI said in Quadragessimo Anno, “Just as it is gravely wrong to take from individuals what they can accomplish by their own initiative and industry and give it to the community, so also it is an injustice and at the same time a grave evil and disturbance of right order to assign to a greater and higher association what lesser and subordinate organizations can do.”We can even say the same thing about the argument of the common defense. It is a natural role of government to provide for the common defense of its citizens against foreign and domestic aggressors. Other than the participatory role of serving in the military, this is not the function of the family or the local community. Therefore the comparison of national defense to accessing health care is not valid. A better comparison would be to other forms of law enforcement. We have the FBI and federal marshals. We have state patrols and police. We have county sheriffs. We have municipal police departments. We have our right to keep and bear arms to defend ourselves.

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